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Power supplies and watts

Generally, a higher power charger is better; a 20V power supply will give better performance than a 15V charger. The Pinecil needs a minimum of 3 amps and will work with higher amps charger. However, do not exceed the volts rating for V1 and V2 models or damage to components could occur (see the side of the Pinecil handle for the maximum volts).

Power Chart

TypeVolts/Tip Ω=Amps*Volts=Watts

USB-C PD3.0

20V

/

8.0 Ω

=

2.5A

*

20V

=

50W

USB-C PD3.0

20V

/

6.2 Ω

=

3.2A

*

20V

=

64W

DC Barrel

24V

/

8.0 Ω

=

3.0A

*

24V

=

72W

DC Barrel

24V

/

6.2 Ω

=

3.8A

*

24V

=

92W

*EPR PD3.1

28V

/

8.0 Ω

=

3.5A

*

28V

=

98W

*EPR PD3.1

28V

/

6.2 Ω

=

4.5A

*

28V

=

126W

Power Notes

  • PINE64 officially states the Pinecil V2 will support up to 24V-88W. Tentatively, the V2 also unofficially supports 28V-140W EPR/PD3.1 USB-C chargers with certified EPR 240W USB-C cables.

  • DC barrel power is 24V-5A maximum on V2. This allows headroom for higher spikes that happen in DC bricks or off-brand bench supplies. It is not a smart charger like a USB-C charger which uses chips to negotiate with devices like the Pinecil.

  • Ralim’s IronOS firmware works with the PD3.1 protocol (EPR 28V-140W chargers) on Pinecil V2.

  • EPR USB-C is new to the market in 2022. The first wave of these smart chargers are 28V/140W, are more expensive, and require a PD 3.1/240W cable to fully allow the 28V power to V2.

  • EPR is backwards compatible for all USB-C devices. EPR chargers/cables can be used for everything else USB-C as well.

  • Pinecil is not a USB-C tester: when the detailed screen is enabled on Pinecil, note it shows estimates and are at best +-10%. The watts shown on detailed mode are a big picture number for convenience and debugging various chargers used. It is not going to be as accurate as an external tester. Use external metering for comparisons or testing (external testers also cause a small reduction in Watts).

QC Chargers

Many Quick Charge or QC3 phone chargers are not recommended as Pinecil V2 is rated for a minimum of 3 Amps or more to work properly (see Pine Store Official rating on power ports). Most QC 12V phone chargers are only 1.5 Amps, this will lead to Thermal Runaway or Undervoltage messages because of weak power (older QC2 type is not supported in the IronOS firmware at all).